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Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 04:04:32 PM »
Hi guys,total newbie here and in need of your expert help.Daughter just got a ds for xmas as well as a barbie three musketeers dvd n doll.To cut a long story short barbie three musketeers was a game she wanted to play on her ds.It took a while but i finally got it to work using DSTT v1.17a12 firmware which as far as i know is the only firmware which will play it.Anyway here's my situation i have an R4 original which i managed to replace the original outdated firmware with dsst v1.17a12 and ysmenu.I also have moonshell 2 v.10 beta installed it plays movies but doesnt launch the games just gives a format error and here is the problem.What i need if one of you geniuses can manage it is
1. moonshell 2 capable off launching games and playing vids
2. moonshell 2 to boot on start up
3. running DSTT v1.17a12 firmware or any capeable or playing  barbie three musketeers
4. with ysmenu if i need it
5. all this on an R4 ORIGINAL
6. thank you
hope one someone can post a link to a easy to follow guide or post one here.

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #1 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 05:17:45 PM »
Moonshell cannot launch games.  It's for media only.  Pictures, Music, Videos.  If you want to play games you have to use the flashcart firmware.

To start Moonshell 2 on boot, your firmware has to support autolaunching games.  A few do, but not all.  I don't think Ysmenu/DSTT/R4 firmware supports this.
« Last Edit: Monday February 15, 2010, 12:17:21 AM by TirithRR »

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #2 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 05:40:06 PM »
Try renaming moonshell.nds to one of the files in the root directory.

I don't know which one but try all.

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #3 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 06:04:09 PM »
Ysmenu is DSTT v1.17a12

http://www.romulation.net/forum/index.php?topic=27617.msg466427#msg466427

So you would have kernal v1.18 and boot ysmenu.nds to use DSTT v1.17a12

Are you can get kernal v1.24, and take out ttmenu folder and ysmenu.nds file, and place the onto the root of microSD card, so you would have kernal v1.24 and DSTT v1.17a12

www.r4li.com

Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #4 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 06:26:25 PM »
Thanks for the quick replies guys.TirithRR in response to "Moonshell cannot, and will not, launch games." is this not whats happening here?
matty999555 yeah tried renaming to native file names in root of my card

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #5 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 06:31:58 PM »
I dont  think he is using it on an R4 , but i think he is running moonshell 2 a AKAIO Sub operating system on a Acekard 2

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #6 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 06:36:23 PM »
TirithRR in response to "Moonshell cannot, and will not, launch games." is this not whats happening here?

It seems that Normmatt made it work with the Acekard2/2i
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=152660

But I don't know if you can do it with the DSTT.  Maybe.
http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=149734

Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #7 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 06:47:59 PM »
Jhon 591 so just to get this right ysmenu is a firmware? i removed the original R4 v1.18 coz i read everywhere that it was outdated and last updated in 2008 although saying that the barbie game is the only one i had problems with.Cheers for the info

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #8 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 06:53:05 PM »
Jhon 591 so just to get this right ysmenu is a firmware? i removed the original R4 v1.18 coz i read everywhere that it was outdated and last updated in 2008 although saying that the barbie game is the only one i had problems with.Cheers for the info


It a TTDS fimware converted to be used on the R4, And they call it ysmenu, Yes it a alt firmware

It should run barbie as its on the list

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* V1.17a12 (Dec 5,2009)
o Problems solved :
    4429 - Phantasy Star Zero (US)
    4502 - Battle of Giants: Dragons (US)
    4503 - Plus belle la vie 2 : Le mysterieux passe de Vincent (FR)
    4510 - Kaijuu Busters (JP)
    4512 - Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes (US)
    4513 - Cross Treasures (JP)
    4514 - Relaxuma * Rhythm: Mattari Kibun de Da Run Run Run (JP)
   *4518 - Pawer Pro-Kun Pocket 12 (JP)
    4524 - Petz Nursery (EU)
    4527 - The Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks (US)
   *4529 - James Cameron's Avatar: The Game (US)
    4532 - Barbie and the Three Musketeers (US)

   *: DS/DSL mode only.

o Library update to 4532.

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* V1.17a11 (Nov 27,2009)
o Problems solved :
    4447 - 200 Klassische Bucher (DE)
   *4456 - Style Lab: Jewelry Design (US)
    4467 - Mario & Sonic at Vancouver Olympics (JP)
    4469 - Wizardry: Inochi no Kusabi (JP)
    4477 - Barbie and The Three Musketeers (EU)
    4489 - Petz: Dog Superstar (EU)
    4492 - Layton Kyouju to Majin no Fue (JP)
    4495 - Petz: Hamster Superstar (EU)
    4499 - Cooking Mama 3 (JP)
    4500 - Ochaken no Heya DS 4: Ochaken Land de Hotto Shiyo? (JP)

   *: DS/DSL mode only.

Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #9 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 06:54:44 PM »
god another two replies i cant keep up with you guys on here.I'll go and read those links now Jhon.The reason i want it set up with moonshell 2 booting on start up and launshing games is tomake it easier for my daughter to operate appreciate all your feed back,great site


Post Merge: Sunday February 14, 2010, 07:03:55 PM
ok so checked out jhon's link http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=149734 what method would you reckomend i follow?


Post Merge: Sunday February 14, 2010, 07:08:10 PM
also what version of moonshell is 2.10 pretty stable?
« Last Edit: Sunday February 14, 2010, 07:08:10 PM by bannockburn1314 »

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #10 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 07:22:00 PM »
god another two replies i cant keep up with you guys on here.I'll go and read those links now Jhon.The reason i want it set up with moonshell 2 booting on start up and launshing games is tomake it easier for my daughter to operate appreciate all your feed back,great site


Post Merge: Sunday February 14, 2010, 07:03:55 PM
ok so checked out jhon's link http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=149734 what method would you reckomend i follow?


Post Merge: Sunday February 14, 2010, 07:08:10 PM
also what version of moonshell is 2.10 pretty stable?

Check the spoler, It somethink i have not got aound to, so would would like boot moonshell 2 and deflat back to kernal or ysmemu when need to run a game...

With the first kernal v1.18 it auto booted the games though moonshell, but they have the tools to edit the DS_Menu.dat and they are tools that would not be released to us, However you can run moonshell by booting _DS_MSHL.dat and reseting your DS to get backto kernal or ysmenu dull way though

_DS_MSHL.dat needs moonshl folder


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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #11 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 07:24:40 PM »
Moonshell cannot, and will not, launch games.  It's for media only.  Pictures, Music, Videos.  If you want to play games you have to use the flashcart firmware.
And it runs homebrew ::)

I wasn't capable of running WintenDOS without Moonshell 2.

Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #12 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 08:29:53 PM »

1) Extract the files of the r4denc package on your desktop.

2) Copy your R4-DLDI'd moonshl2.nds from the root of your card to the r4denc directory.

3) Drag moonshl2.nds over r4enc.exe. This will produce a file called "moonshl2.nds.DAT".

4) Rename moonshl2.nds.DAT into "_DS_MENU.DAT".

For users of Windows XP/etc., the .DAT extension might automatically be hidden. In this case, open any explorer window, go to "Tools", "Folder Options...", "View", check the Advanced Settings panel and remove the check from "Hide extensions for known file types." Keep it this way for now.

5) Copy _DS_MENU.DAT to the root of your card. From here, you can choose to overwrite R4's original _DS_MENU.DAT firmware file or just rename it to something else and keep it as backup. What matters is you get the renamed _DS_MENU.DAT at the root of your card.

Okay, now you can change it back. Follow the extra steps in the previous step and put the check back. It might get annoying when you're renaming files, so it's recommended you just keep the extensions hidden unless you discover you have an everyday use for them.

6) Create a new directory on your desktop called "r4ysauto".

7) Extract the contents of the r4ysauto package you downloaded into this directory.

8) Copy the YSMenu package you downloaded from Yasu's site into the r4ysauto directory.

9) Run r4config.bat and answer the questions accordingly. Anyhow, these are my answers:

Language: EN
Flashcart: R4
Overwrite: Yes
Skin: No
YSMenu Language: EN
Ways To Install YSMenu: 4
Automatic Updates: Off

10) Rename the YSMenu package you copied to the directory as "YSMenu0810211800.zip".

11) Run r4.bat. This will produce "R4_custom_English.zip".

12) Extract the files of this archive into the root of your card.

13) Create a new directory called "ysmenu" at the root of your card.

14) Move the YSMenu.nds you extracted from the R4_custom_English archive into the ysmenu directory.

15) DLDI-patch YSMenu.nds.
Ok in the middle of this process but im stuck on part 10 and 11 when i run r4.bat which is only named r4 in my version i get told that it cant locate the YSMenu0810211800.zip what exactly was i to do in part 10 anyone?

Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #13 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 08:37:56 PM »
when i 1st did part 7 i opened the ysmenu and copied the 6 contents over then when told to rename them i had six items so figured id made a mistake as i couldnt rename the six of em.So i re did it with them in the ysmenu folder and renamed ysmenu folder to YSMenu0810211800.zip but r4ysauto didnt locate it

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #14 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 08:47:20 PM »
when i 1st did part 7 i opened the ysmenu and copied the 6 contents over then when told to rename them i had six items so figured id made a mistake as i couldnt rename the six of em.So i re did it with them in the ysmenu folder and renamed ysmenu folder to YSMenu0810211800.zip but r4ysauto didnt locate it


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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #15 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 09:30:35 PM »
Just  download one off the following link of me
it is Moonshell 2.0 and all you need to do is copy
everything to your R4 and use directboot.nds and it
will launch Moonshell 2.0.

(With the language.nds you can select the language that
moonshell needs to be)

http://www.mediafire.com/?gyizignc5ky

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=P53H39G4

Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #16 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 09:59:57 PM »
Fire ice will that let moonshell launch my games?.Right starting this guide again and just checking with you guys about this

1) Extract the "moonshl2" directory and "moonshl2.nds" to the root of your flashcart. These are the only real required files to get MoonShell 2 to work. Of course, you can extract the others for more features.

2) DLDI-patch moonshl2.nds with your corresponding flashcart's DLDI file.

3) Extract the "nds.YSloaderForMS2.nds" and "config.ini" files from linoul's package to the /moonshl2/extlink folder. If you're using an alternate loader, extract only the "nds.-insertloadernamehere-.nds" file to the extlink folder unless told otherwise.

4) From here, follow the specific instructions given for your flashcart. Also, please take note that this guide was created based on MoonShell 2.00 Beta 10. Therefore, whenever "moonshl2.nds" is mentioned for patching and/or renaming purposes, it is actually "moonshl2_DirectBoot.nds" that is being referred to.

in part two this patching thing what im doing is just putting this tool AutoDLDIPatch in with part 1 and doing same here 2) Copy your R4-DLDI'd moonshl2.nds from the root of your card to the r4denc directory.
will this work or do i have to manually patch it and if i do how do i do it


Post Merge: Sunday February 14, 2010, 10:39:57 PM
nah failed again got up to 15 this time moonshell tries to boot on start up but fails.Has anyone got this working any chance of getting the files from you?
« Last Edit: Sunday February 14, 2010, 10:39:57 PM by bannockburn1314 »

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #17 on: Sunday February 14, 2010, 10:50:56 PM »
I have a CycloDS, so I can't do it (no firmware files on the CycloDS).

Maybe it will be easier to show your daughter how to run Moonshell.NDS like she would any game.

Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #18 on: Monday February 15, 2010, 12:11:20 AM »
ok the problem was the patching i maually patched and it launches moonshell 2 on start up but no sound on movies and still doesnt launch games.Half way there though any suggestions?

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #19 on: Monday February 15, 2010, 11:12:45 AM »
ok the problem was the patching i maually patched and it launches moonshell 2 on start up but no sound on movies and still doesnt launch games.Half way there though any suggestions?

Button Start > Settings

Set the settings may help...

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #20 on: Monday February 15, 2010, 01:34:46 PM »
Fire ice will that let moonshell launch my games?.Right starting this guide again and just checking with you guys about this

1) Extract the "moonshl2" directory and "moonshl2.nds" to the root of your flashcart. These are the only real required files to get MoonShell 2 to work. Of course, you can extract the others for more features.

2) DLDI-patch moonshl2.nds with your corresponding flashcart's DLDI file.

3) Extract the "nds.YSloaderForMS2.nds" and "config.ini" files from linoul's package to the /moonshl2/extlink folder. If you're using an alternate loader, extract only the "nds.-insertloadernamehere-.nds" file to the extlink folder unless told otherwise.

4) From here, follow the specific instructions given for your flashcart. Also, please take note that this guide was created based on MoonShell 2.00 Beta 10. Therefore, whenever "moonshl2.nds" is mentioned for patching and/or renaming purposes, it is actually "moonshl2_DirectBoot.nds" that is being referred to.

in part two this patching thing what I'm doing is just putting this tool AutoDLDIPatch in with part 1 and doing same here 2) Copy your R4-DLDI'd moonshl2.nds from the root of your card to the r4denc directory.
will this work or do i have to manually patch it and if i do how do i do it


Post Merge: Sunday February 14, 2010, 10:39:57 PM
nah failed again got up to 15 this time moonshell tries to boot on start up but fails.Has anyone got this working any chance of getting the files from you?


For the moment you've got me confused so lets see if I get this straight:

You've got a R4 and you've got the right firmwire (I presume) and you wanted Moonshell
I gave you the links to Moonshell and I understand you want to us Moonshell to start up your games.

That is impossible Moonshell is a tool to play DPG files and mp3 on your DS
To start up up games you've got your firmwire or YSmenu.

So that means you need this in your micro SD card to work properly

R4firmwire (to play games etc.)
YS menu (for games with AP that needs to be patched)
Moonshell  (to play mp3 and DPG files) (everything to run moonhell were in my previous post with the links)

If you've got this on your micro SD it will work properly (I've got a R4I RTS and it works with normale R4i RTS firmwire.

To start up Moonshell from your  R4 press  the middle buttton to start up Moonshell

If it isn't you can change that in your settings (for the moment I forget how to get there )
and if they're correct the middle button will launch Moonshell

You can also enter your games folder and use the Moonshell.nds file it also launches moonshell
(you can choose where to put Moonshell.nds  but with R4 I always put it in my gamesfolder in case the middle button fails to work like in your case)

Maybe this will help you to get it work


Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #21 on: Monday February 15, 2010, 04:23:23 PM »
For the moment you've got me confused so lets see if I get this straight:

You've got a R4 and you've got the right firmwire (I presume) and you wanted Moonshell
I gave you the links to Moonshell and I understand you want to us Moonshell to start up your games.

That is impossible Moonshell is a tool to play DPG files and mp3 on your DS
To start up up games you've got your firmwire or YSmenu.


fire_ice your confused well that makes two of us lol.Was already told earlier in this thread that it cant be done but i've seen it done all it all be it on a different card this is what i want.Moonshell 2 to boot up on start up and to be able to start my games from moonshell.I've tried this guide which suggests it can be done http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=149734

Post Merge: Monday February 15, 2010, 04:24:49 PM
Button Start > Settings

Set the settings may help...
ok yoshiflip worth a try how do i do it,access the settngs?

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #22 on: Monday February 15, 2010, 04:48:38 PM »
ok yoshiflip worth a try how do i do it,access the settngs?
Button Start > Settings
EDIT: And just call me yoshi :P
« Last Edit: Monday February 15, 2010, 05:07:42 PM by YoshiFlip »

Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #23 on: Monday February 15, 2010, 05:45:04 PM »
yoshi simple instructions but im not getting it what do you mean by button start? oh hell you dont mean press start do you? told you i was a noob and what settings am i looking for ?

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Re: Help to boot moonshell 2 on start up
« Reply #24 on: Monday February 15, 2010, 05:58:48 PM »
fire_ice your confused well that makes two of us lol.Was already told earlier in this thread that it cant be done but i've seen it done all it all be it on a different card this is what i want.Moonshell 2 to boot up on start up and to be able to start my games from moonshell.I've tried this guide which suggests it can be done http://gbatemp.net/index.php?showtopic=149734

Post Merge: Monday February 15, 2010, 04:24:49 PM
ok yoshiflip worth a try how do i do it,access the settngs?

I've looked at the video () and I don't know if you've noticed you can only do that on a Acekard 2i (Like I have  with AKIO and not with a R4


That what you saw in the video can only be done with a Acekard2 2i with AKIO firmwire