Author Topic: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?  (Read 4457 times)

Offline Azolev Enhar Sohac

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday January 11, 2012, 04:46:13 PM »
Bottom line is, any software that is free, is 9 outta 10 times fakeware.

So following your logic are you saying Malwarebytes free is fakeware as well since you said nine out of ten free AV apps are fakeware?

#2 Malwarebytes Pro, should be an immediate backup for that "just in case" person like myself who has most of their important data stored on their hard drives.  This program will actually find bad sectors in your hard drives as well as your internet protocols that any other software may have missed.

Ever heard of doing a CHKDSK? That basically does what you said that I highlighted & if the sector/s can be recovered it will using the /f parameter.

Also, where does it say Malwarebytes can find bad sectors?

http://www.malwarebytes.org/products/malwarebytes_pro#features

Don't get me wrong, I no longer support AVG & I definitely love Malwarebytes but you seem to be misinformed about it.

People who use AVG free usually spend most of their time on their computers downloading porn, playing video games, and torrent hunt.  They hear the word free and think they are getting the deal of the century.  Common knowledge people, you get what you pay for.  And developers don't just give you software for free.

Oh really? :P

What about those who make Flash games? Sure most of 'em are very basic but a lot of 'em are free & fun to boot.

And what about Codec compilers & the people who made Media Player Classic? Those ARE free & they improve our computers' audio & video capabilities far beyond what was given us out of the box?

And seeing this is an emulation discussion community, what of Emulators huh? These are free & these let us play games. As for the games themselves.... well you got us there as we can not hide the fact that we mostly acquire games through piracy.

Oh & of course the hard work of fan translators, those are free as well & the folk who make 'em do so not to profit as well.

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #26 on: Wednesday January 11, 2012, 04:53:29 PM »
1 simple reason why AVG is shit and always has been.

No rootkit protection. HELLOOOOOO!  This reason should be sufficient enough for anyone with half a brain but then again people who use AVG usually don't know what a rootkit is, even though it is the  primary sector that a virus or malware makes it entry.

People who use AVG free usually spend most of their time on their computers downloading porn, playing video games, and torrent hunt.  They hear the word free and think they are getting the deal of the century.  Common knowledge people, you get what you pay for.  And developers don't just give you software for free.

AVG free is nothing more than fakeware.   It gives people that have no tech knowledge the illusion that they have virus protection when in reality all they have is a useless program that looks like its doing something, but really its just sucking up your memory.  Not to mention that the detection rates of ANYTHING are considerably less than avast, kasper, and even NORTON. 

My personal recommendation for virus and malware protection, that is if your not an internet freeloader and actually give software developers their due by paying for what you download.

#1 Vipre is probably one the most, if not THE most secure virus protection and internet surf protection I've ever had the pleasure of owning.  It's not cheap, but  it's business class software developed for people who have large business accounts that are connected online at all times.  Best part is, if you get a virus while using their product and Vipre doesn't detect it, they will give you a full refund on your product.

#2 Malwarebytes Pro, should be an immediate backup for that "just in case" person like myself who has most of their important data stored on their hard drives.  This program will actually find bad sectors in your hard drives as well as your internet protocols that any other software may have missed.

Bottom line is, any software that is free, is 9 outta 10 times fakeware.  Same goes for crap like Avast, Kasper, Nod32, etc.  Your not paying for these programs so your not going to get the protection that you need.  Their just giving you something that looks like it's doing something, but it's really not.   But you can't explain this to diehard freeware fanboys because like i said before, these people don't do anything useful on their computers anyways, so why would they care about REAL virus protection. 

And to all the fanboys of AVG out their who claim they've NEVER gotten a virus using it, it's called the luck of the draw man, plain and simple.  You just haven't been targeted yet.  But it's only a matter of time before you do.  You probably are infected now and don't even know it.  Don't believe me? Download the light version of malware bytes, it lets you use the scanner but you get no real time protection. I bet CASH MONEY that it finds over a dozen trojans, and malware that your awesome AVG doesn't even recognize.





this is a load of twaddle. As far as free AV products go, AVG is one of the best and consistently has been for a long time. This has been proven in a number of independent tests over the years. Coincidentally, Norton is not free and is the worst AV on the market by a considerable margin. Mcafee isn't free either and isn't much better than Norton.

Your recommendation of malwarebytes further proves your ignorance. Malwarebytes is NOT an antivirus program, it is an antimalware program, which has an entirely different purpose to an AV. Sensible people use both antivirus and antimalware software, as well as a firewall.

Your statement 'any software that is free, is 9 outta 10 times fakeware' is the most ignorant statement I have seen in a long time. Allow me to demonstrate the ignorance with the following list: Openoffice, clamAV, postfix, qmail, apache, nginx, php, imgburn, GNU/Linux, firefox, chrome, ogg vorbis, utorrent, git, subversion, foxit reader, GIMP, blender, GCC, iptables and literally thousands of other products that are FREE and run a vast number of businesses and have huge market shares, and even lead entire industries. If you have a problem with free software, I suggest you get off of the internet, since the chances are your router runs a variant of GNU/Linux and uses iptables or pfsense to keep you safe, among other free products. Oh and get rid of your smartphone too.

Kaspersky and nod32 are not free, and as a matter of fact, nod32 is the best AV currently on the market, as proven by the independent tests I mentioned earlier. I use kaspersky myself, and have used AVG in the past, among many other security products.

Reading your post, one thing is especially clear to me. YOU are the fanboy in this discussion, and you demonstrate a remarkable ignorance of basic computer security.

Considering I have over a decade of IT and networking experience, as well as an honours degree in IT/networking, with a major focus on security, I think I'm qualified to comment here.

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday January 11, 2012, 10:31:30 PM »
Since Im qualified also,half of what he says is true and the other half is total bullshit.For someones first post on here, its hilarious.

Im wondering if hes been banned before and just came on here to piss people off?

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday January 11, 2012, 11:46:04 PM »
I love how he's all like your freeware is shit, but here's the best antivirus program that no one has heard about, except for him.

I'm looking at the CNET reviews right now of it, and I'm amused by the results.

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #29 on: Thursday January 12, 2012, 12:36:23 AM »
Loony,can you answer some of the questions he posed.Hes had about a year and a half to think his post up.And I wonder what important data he has stored on his hard drive.My guess its footage shot just before the janitor phoned the police  ;)

1.do you have half a brain
2.do you know what a rootkit is
3.do you do anything useful on your computer
3a.do you spend your time downloading porn etc
4.are you infected right now
5.has mbam found 12 trojans on your machine

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #30 on: Thursday January 12, 2012, 01:24:44 AM »
Loony,can you answer some of the questions he posed.Hes had about a year and a half to think his post up.And I wonder what important data he has stored on his hard drive.My guess its footage shot just before the janitor phoned the police  ;)

1.do you have half a brain
2.do you know what a rootkit is
3.do you do anything useful on your computer
3a.do you spend your time downloading porn etc
4.are you infected right now
5.has mbam found 12 trojans on your machine

I had a full brain last time the surgeon looked, I'm not aware of losing any.
yes, anyone who has a qualification in IT security does
a lot of useful things.
I download porn on occasion
kaspersky reports nothing
MBAM reports nothing either.

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #31 on: Thursday January 12, 2012, 08:25:51 AM »
Personally i use Nod32 + Malwarebytes + advanced Process tree to hunt down any kind of malware and Viruses Battle network style

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #32 on: Thursday January 12, 2012, 09:15:00 AM »
i always though, the next generation is consist of computer geniuses. the next generation, everyone will know how to fix their own PC because it will be part of core education..

after reading this post, my hope for next generation die a little...

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #33 on: Thursday January 12, 2012, 11:56:30 AM »
Personally,I now use MSE2 and MBAM pro with Windows Firewall.I would grade free AV software as them first,Avira second and Avast third.Ive also had to tune the 2 x programs to work properly in conjunction with each other.

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #34 on: Thursday January 12, 2012, 02:47:44 PM »
i always though, the next generation is consist of computer geniuses. the next generation, everyone will know how to fix their own PC because it will be part of core education..

after reading this post, my hope for next generation die a little...
you and i both

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #35 on: Thursday January 12, 2012, 04:21:21 PM »
Personally,I now use MSE2 and MBAM pro with Windows Firewall.I would grade free AV software as them first,Avira second and Avast third.Ive also had to tune the 2 x programs to work properly in conjunction with each other.

windows firewall is worthless, try comodo instead.

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Re: how can i explain to my friend that AVG is shit?
« Reply #36 on: Thursday January 12, 2012, 05:49:13 PM »
If all else fails, bomb the shit out of virii with ComboFix... unfortunately this thing's not for everyone as it can render your computer unbootable if something goes wrong which is why I first ask for assistance from people from thebleepingcomputer or majorgeeks before I begin nuking.