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Why do people look down on people who have lower bracket jobs?

Discussion in 'Rants' started by Cahos Rahne Veloza, Sep 9, 2011.

  1. Cahos Rahne Veloza

    Cahos Rahne Veloza The Fart Awakens

    Bus Drivers, Janitors, Street sweepers, mechanics, Security Guards, Gas attendants,"" garbage pick-up men & the iconic "Burger flipper"....

    Why does society or at least the media label these lower bracket jobs as "the bottom of the barrel" or jobs meant for losers :(

    Every "decent" job (jobs that are not lewd &/or illegal) should be considered noble as you are earning money for yourself &/or your family. So what if they're not high salary jobs & do not require a college &/or Post Graduate degree at least it pays for the bills & other stuff.

    Some of these jobs are even hazardous to one's health, for example those who work at sewage treatment plants & yet they are branded as lower class folk. And others are key to keep the city running, we need Public transportation drivers so we could get to & from where we need to go or arrive from. We need our trash picked up or else it'll pile up & muddy the environment. And without security commercial buildings & public offices can get ransacked albeit even with tight security robberies can still happen.
     
  2. markswan

    markswan Well-Known Member

    A portion of the population looks down on them, a portion of the population does lots of mean things.
    Because they mostly don't require accademic qualifications. Society thinks qualifications are all sexy because because you usually have to work hard over a considerable period of time to earn them. This leads to people viewing jobs like the ones you chose as examples as undesirable by the standards of achievement tied to accadamia. Of course, this is short-sighted or outright wrong in some cases, but that's the way things are. There are plenty of examples of "upper class" jobs that are also looked down on too (such as Proctologists and Giraffe Breeders) for superficial reasons (being unglamorous despite requiring years of dedicated study and giraffe hatred).
     
  3. darkrequiem

    darkrequiem Well-Known Member

    Good heavens, giraffes.

    Remember kids, be nice to the person doing retail!
    Or else.
     
  4. calvin_0

    calvin_0 Well-Known Member

    i know that those two job are look down upon in my country and the pay is like shit and often label as "shitty career for those who doesnt study in school", but i heard from my friend that came back from US, those job pay really well.... and i also heard the same thing from my lecturer who from europe originally....

    well too bad society didnt know that some successful people are high school drop out... like my friends, he never finish high school.. and he is a department manager and earning triple of what i earn, own a house and cars and recently married...

    me on the other hand, completed high school, pre university program and college, have a huge 30k debt on my butt while my earning dont even exceed 2k... hell i dont even work in the field that i study for >.> (study: major in programing, working: computer technician)

    academic qualifications dont mean anything.... unless you are a doctor or a surgeon....
     
  5. Cahos Rahne Veloza

    Cahos Rahne Veloza The Fart Awakens

    In the end, hard work does pay off.

    Same here >.< I graduated with a Degree in Education in college & took up Linguistics Majoring in Philippine Languages as my Post Graduate degree & where am I now? An employee at my Uni's Book Publishers, sure I could've taken an offer to be a College Professor but I turned it down because I'm an introvert, I rather be given orders & fulfill said orders rather than dishing 'em out.

    Aside from the obvious "Educational background" factor, another "biased" factor society looks for is "beauty". In a job interview per se, how you look like can make or break you getting the job. These biased assholes will often disregard your educational qualification if they think you look ugly, fat, short etcetera.

    And with my case, having a disability too is a disadvantage even though it is written in the law that differently abled people have to have equal opportunity to land a job.

    And sadly, if all else fails.... Having "powerful" friends or what we call "backers" is the way to go. This corrupt practice is the reason why we have brainless executives out there who know squat about the job they've applied to but were only able to get the job because they know people or are related to those in office.
     
  6. lewis9191

    lewis9191 Well-Known Member

    Not always. <3
     
  7. nex26

    nex26 Well-Known Member

    How is it, you were able to turn down a well respected and challenging job for no reason other than your own insecurities. Why didn't you take it and develop the skills needed to improve yourself as a person?
     
  8. Cahos Rahne Veloza

    Cahos Rahne Veloza The Fart Awakens

    Judgemental as always....

    The work hours for a college Professor at my Uni is between 7AM to 7PM & my main issue was the commute. The Uni is at least two hours of commute from where I'm at. I don't drive to work as firstly I've no car & second, I do not have a license because I can't drive.

    Remember, my field of vision is 1,200/1,300
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    The morning commute is no problem as it's easy enough for me to find my way around seeing as almost every ride going outbound from where I am goes there. The problem is going home from Uni at night. From there, there are a myriad of public transportation vehicles I can take out, but not all of 'em go to where I'm from. In the worst case scenario I could end up taking three rides just to get home. The problem is, I actually DO NOT read the little signages posted on the front of public transport vehicles showing the routes the vehicles would take because I CAN'T READ EM' FROM AFAR. The only way I can get around this is if I can see the patterns/designs of an approaching vehicle, if a particular ride looks familiar to me then that's where I get on. Now try to see things my way, it's pitch dark, you can't see what design the approaching vehicle has & it's only after the ride's at least six feet next to you before you could identify its appearance. Sadly, by then the vehicle has moved on, so how can I get on? And no, unlike in other parts of the world public utility vehicles here are not allowed to stop for an unlimited time in non designated stops so unless I flag the vehicle down when it's still a distance away I can not hope to get on. I could get on a cab but that is way too expensive. as if the transportation fee is cheap 'round here.

    With my current job, I only need to get to work at 8AM & I'm out at around 5PM & 5PM is still has a bit of sunlight for me to see well enough.

    Another major problem if I did took the Professor job is dealing with people in general. With my condition I have difficulty recognizing faces & it would be very difficult for me to discern who my students are in a particular class. I also can not establish eye contact with people obviously as I can't see very well. And we all know that to establish control of a group of people, et al a classroom, the teacher has to be able to look troublemakers straight in the eyes to establish order.

    Now before you say, "then why did you took up Education as your College degree then?", I'll put out my explanation right away. I wanted to be a teacher yes, but for visually impaired students such as myself. Sadly, when we say "Special Education" the term apparently was only ever associated with the mentally challenged & noting else. I actually wasted "Special Ed" subjects because all they taught were teaching methods for Autistics & other learning challenged students. Never did I have a subject that had anything to do with my case.

    The biggest blow given to me was when I graduated from College & I was applying for a teaching position at Specific Schools for the blind & the visually impaired. I was actually turned down by all three of 'em :( Yep, there were only three such schools here & all three of 'em rejected my application. As if I could not understand how it feels to have visual difficulties. I guess they didn't want the partially blind leading the blind.
     
  9. Suiseiseki

    Suiseiseki Well-Known Member

    I look down on people in low bracket jobs simply because they're doing stuff they probably didn't want to do with their life. I've never met someone whose ambition was to be a checkout operator or a garbageman. Further, many low-bracket jobs don't require a set of specialised skills, and specialised skills are by nature a desirable thing for a person to have.

    In contrast using myself as an example, I do computer networking shit because I like computers and I've always wanted to work with them. It's a useful skillset that required years of study and experience to earn, so I rather think that I deserve a bit more respect than some kid who dropped out of school aged 16 and stands around all day scanning groceries.
     
  10. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    The funny thing is, bin men(garbage collectors) earn more than teachers. They earn more than the transport managers at my place too.
     
  11. Jhon 591

    Jhon 591 Well-Known Member

    That's true yes, Blame health and safety pay.

    Matchines that lift the bin - gloves ext

    My dad and many overs remembers the old days where they worked for a living - Rolling and lifting metal bins physical , emptying them, back braking work.
     
  12. someirishkid

    someirishkid Well-Known Member

    I don't look down on them. I appreciate them for doing the jobs nobody else is willing to do :)
     
  13. ace1o1

    ace1o1 Well-Known Member

    tl;dr

    I think they do that because they think they are more educated than the regular joe. Fucking assholes...
     
  14. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    *gasp* People who actually do useful work getting paid more than managers?! :p
     
  15. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    Thats not work, the bins have wheels and the truck has a lift. Any monkey can do it.
    Im just jealous.
     
  16. Nitemare_ Plague

    Nitemare_ Plague Well-Known Member

    then do that job instead
     
  17. msg2009

    msg2009 Romulations sexiest member

    To get a job like that in England you have to know the boss and for their to actually be a vacancy, people just do not give up well paid easy jobs. If that job ever got advertised(they never do) everybody in the local area would apply.
     
  18. will1008

    will1008 Well-Known Member

     
  19. Loonylion

    Loonylion Administrator Staff Member

    theres too much competition for jobs. I was told there were over 400 applicants for a single vacancy for a truck driver to drive truckloads of books between county libraries.

    The jobseekers guy basically said im never going to get a job through conventional means because I just have too much non-disabled competition.
     
  20. Void

    Void Well-Known Member

    The prejudice arises from the idea that "lower-end" workers are stuck there due to a lack of education, which is associated with a lack of intelligence. Personal experience has shown me some of the brightest people I know (straight-A kids in high school) dropping out of school for other pursuits that cater to them actually enjoying their lives. To extend that, I know some truly stupid people that do well in school.

    Academic success is a result of lifestyle and motivation, not entirely on a standard of intellectualism. And is it fair to judge someone because of a hesitance to comply with a generic 21st century lifestyle? And that's where the prejudice goes wrong. I mean, imagine a poor Boston-dwelling Matt Damon working as a janitor and solving math problems on the chalk board because he's secretly gifted. You never know just which janitors are a Matt Damon.

    Of course the prejudice is inherently irrelevant when you consider the wide ranges of predisposed financial capabilities to actually pursue education in the first place. Looking down on someone because their parents are poor is truly fucked. Nice try, Hitlers.

    EDIT

    One more point I want to make: having a degree doesn't mean dick about ambition. I have none of that. I'm an aspiring alcoholic who smokes weed all day and skips classes and I still have my head above the water. Some lower bracket workers exemplify so much more willingness to succeed than I do, and it's entirely situational that I have more career potential than them right now.